The latest statistics I read claim that in only 10 years there will be places where their normal, everyday temperature will be higher than their highest norms are currently. So, every day will be like a record breaking high. Then they said eventually the whole world would be like that by 2047.

Think about that number. That's only 34 years away. Not 1000 or even 100. Just 34...within most people's lifetime.

Then they showed a a dried, cracked area in Texas that used to be a lake...

What are your opinions on global warming? Will it happen soon???

Greatest load of rubbish and in most instances just alarmists frightening people.

My opinion.

Quote from: iceblock on November 03, 2013, 05:24:16 AM
Greatest load of rubbish and in most instances just alarmists frightening people.

My opinion.

So then what is your logical explanation for the extreme weather around the world? I live in the north where massive ice blocks (excuse the name comparison) are literally melting and areas that have NEVER been clear of ice in recorded history are now rivers.

The past couple of years residents have been able to go golfing in the dead of winter when we're usually huddled indoors by the fireplace.

It certainly sounds like we're due for one of the Earth's climate shifts that has happened before, but I'm willing to hear your explanation as well....

I live in Australia and there has been no change to the weather pattern or landscape here since I was born.

And I live right on the coast, on a peninsula, jammed between an ocean from the south and a beautiful bay in the North. Personally I think climate change is just a bunch of scientists justifying their funding requirements. It is normal for the weather to change over the course of thousands of years, it is believed Sydney Harbour was nothing more than a series of canals at one point for example but to suggest it is changing quickly enough to impact so it is noticed not in blocks of hundreds of years but by a generation is pretty alarmist.

You see the thing with history is that we easily forget. Today's strongest typhoon to ever strike the Earth (and I wish those people in Vietnam all the best and hope the poor souls in the Philippines can rest in piece) is last century's disaster. These things have always happened, and will continue to happen. This is not global warming, or climate change, this is normal.

While it is true that events like that have happened before, they are now happening at a greater frequency than "normal". Whenever weather disasters happened when I was a kid it was always in some remote place I had never heard of before, but then it hit New Orleans a few years ago, and that was the closest ever to me. Now it's a regular event where towns within North America where I live are being wiped out...schools gone...houses reduced to nothing. The hurricane season in the past 3 years has been the worse ever here.

Bad weather and the disasters caused by it are common, but the recent frequency of them is not, at least not as far back as anyone in my family can remember, including my 103 year old uncle. While I do agree there are alarmists that make a "mountain out of a molehill" (as they say here), it seems like people disbelieve the incredible claims of the alarmists and then dismiss ALL of what is shown by real, scientific evidence, unfortunately. Put aside the alarmist claims and look at what's left and there is still lots of credible evidence there.

Bottom line though is that, believe it or not, it's something we'll all be able to find out soon enough...perhaps in as little as 10 years. Meet back here then to compare notes?

I think we have to be a little bit realistic here.... 100 years ago, measurement of temperature was not as accurate as it is today..... And the number of locations where temperatures were recorded every day, as a matter of course, was very small compared to today..... It is also worth noting that what happened a few years ago when the tsunami struck, would have happened before, but there would have been no news coverage of it.
I knew the word tsunami, before then, so clearly they happened, but that is the first I knew of their power.

Where I live, the most extreme weather in my 41 year lifetime, occurred in 1987. 26 years ago. Not this year, or last year.....

I'm not saying the scientists are wrong, but what I am saying is that much of their science is based upon little more than a series of assumptions based upon very recent measurements.

If I had let science show me the future throughout my whole life, I would now be a very lonely guy after everyone else died of bird flu a few years back.

As you can tell, I am a sceptic !!! But I respect the views of others. I may well be wrong.

I certainly understand that skepticism because I am a big skeptic myself and tend not to believe really anything unless I have seen or experienced it myself, and that's what concerns me.

For me it's not about having better abilities to measure things today as opposed to 100 years ago. It's about golfing in the middle of winter. It's about remembering in my lifetime how we used to build huge snow forts and would be buried in snow for 5 months and now barely get enough to build a snowman, and even that is melted by the next day. When I was a kid we'd build a snowman that would last at least half the winter.

I can't speak for other parts of the world, but It's changed in the north for sure. Even polar bears are dying because of the ice islands they once lived on are now melting. You can physically see the evidence here. It's not an "assumption"...its a fact...many of them.

I just think some areas of the world hasn't experienced it to that extent yet, such as in Australia and the UK. North America certainly has (USA, Canada), South America has, Asia has, but several (different) sources are pointing to by 2047 before the rest of the world will. While I'm usually a bigger skeptic I find it interesting that it's close enough that at least we'll find out one way or another soon enough if it's true or not.

While it may turn out to be just another Y2K panic, or 2012 scare, it's interesting that the time frame gets shorter and shorter with each new statistic released. I'm hoping I'm around to see it. Since we all will eventually die anyway I think it would be cool to go as part of the apocalyptic scenario just to see how it ends for mankind.

Call me morbid, but I find the possibility to be fascinating.